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Post by MechaStorm » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:51 pm

thats why i always send extra scholars. i always have a backup plan. although... if they more than 10 of my scholars i get mad and will go ape! then they in big trouble lol. but yes you can always easily take out a player no matter how strong he is if you have a good guild and if hes guildless. as firefall said he will only have a limited ammount of troops. also what you can do to keep troops bottle up is send fakes to all his cities

Post by LordFirefall » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:52 pm

That's debatable. I've taken 65k guards out in cities before. It's all about how bad you want it. Sim it out, and you'll see.

Post by Sternist » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:48 pm

I'm giving possible outcomes, dodging isn't limited to the clearing wave. If his cities are close enough he can move support around fast. A decent number of guards can destroy 200 ballistas, or anything else you throw at him.

Post by LordFirefall » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:33 am

A few minutes ago, you asked what to do if he dodged. My answers were predicated on that. While a defender can load as many troops as they want, they have to come from somewhere. You've said he's guildless, so that support is limited to the cities he has. It takes huge defensive numbers to prevent ballista damage. Also, supporting that one city leaves the others defenseless. He can't be everywhere at once. You have a guild, use it to your advantage.

Post by Sternist » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:14 am

But is it that simple to just burn his city to the ground? A single city has a finite amount of troops that can be sent in an attack. Whereas a defender can load as many troops as they want in defense.

Post by LordFirefall » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:51 am

Depends whether its a chaos or non chaos world. It's like chess. For every move, there is a counter move. Set it so you have 2 more scholar waves to land 5-10 hours later, and set guards to support just after they land, based on your first conquer. The more you talk about this guy though, the more I'd be inclined just to burn his city with Ballista.

Post by Sternist » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:22 am

What if he lets you take the city? He destroys your clearing wave, pulls his troops and allows your scholars to take the city. After your last wave hits he sends a scholar from the city next door taking his city back.

This is an experienced, active player, who uses gold, with close clustered cities and 10+ hour scholar walking time. Basic tactics aren't working. Simple timed and fake attacks have been used and failed.

Post by MechaStorm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:03 pm

lol sometimes i just do it for fun if its their last city. make it a nice little 1k and occasionally give em a nudge to make life easier for them with a small city

Post by LordFirefall » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:56 pm

I do that as well. I've only had burn cities a few time to make a point ;)

Post by MechaStorm » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:39 pm

i ususally send an extra scholar anyways if they are a good strong player.
and like firefall said. you either cap it or burn it to the ground. i make it so that i have 5-6 scholars within 5 seconds of each other. clears 1-10 seconds before, and some clears mixed in with my scholar attacks, and many fakes before and after my scholars land.

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